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  Has anyone been outed by jw health care workers?

  by purrpurr in

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  carrying on from audespare thread.

  i was wondering how common it is for a sinner/apostate to be outed by a babbling jw care worker?

  say you went to your dr because you were pregnant and unmarried or wanting counseling for having to live a double life as a pretend jw... and a jw secretary at the drs office saw this on your file and went tattling to the elders?.

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  Hey Scully! I went back and read your entire essay. Excellent work!

  I seem to remember a very similar article published in the Journal of Church and State several years back. Was this your article as well?
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  Has anyone been outed by jw health care workers?

  by purrpurr in

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  carrying on from audespare thread.

  i was wondering how common it is for a sinner/apostate to be outed by a babbling jw care worker?

  say you went to your dr because you were pregnant and unmarried or wanting counseling for having to live a double life as a pretend jw... and a jw secretary at the drs office saw this on your file and went tattling to the elders?.

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  I agree with all the above who posted that Sharon/Mary should have minded her own blanking business and deserves whatever happened to her.

  Reporting people to "authorities" for personal conduct that poses no danger to others, especially when there is a legitimate expectation of privacy, and doubly when it involves personal medical issues, is nothing less than a betrayal and an elevation of one's own beliefs over the rights and beliefs of another. Many a totalitarian regime has used this to gain and hold power over the masses. Many a cult has done the same.

  I hope the lady who sued won, and won big.
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  FYI My JW mom and Alzheimer's

  by scary21 in

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  one year ago today my mom passed away.

  she was 91 years old.

  it has been really hard on me because i never expected what happened, to.have happened.

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  Alzheimer's or even progressive dementia can cause dramatic, unexplainable, and unpredictable changes in the victim's outlook and personality. If this animus towards you and your sister began after your mom began feeling the effects of her disease, maybe you can chalk it up to the disease itself and choose to believe that it doesn't reflect how your mom would have felt if she had been in her right mind.

  Just because she recognized you and had certain memories of you doesn't mean her attitude towards you wasn't entirely due to the ravages of her disease. I have an elderly maternal uncle to whom this is happening right now. He has dementia, not Alzheimer's, but at this stage it's more of a distinction that a difference. His sister- and brother-in-law have bent over backward for years to help him and my aunt out in numerous ways. They have gone way beyond the call of duty or even familial love. But in the last year or so, my uncle has acquired an almost venomous hatred of his brother-in-law, for absolutely no reason whatsoever. When they come over to visit or, more often, help out, my uncle sulks in silence, clenching his jaw and fists, and glaring holes through the man. Again, there is no justification whatsoever. My uncle accuses him of all sorts of terrible things and even denies that he ever had the long and successful career that he most certainly did. No amount of explanation and proof that they were the best of friends for years does any good. But we all know that my uncle would never feel or act this way if he were in his right mind. Alzheimer's and dementia can be expressed in a myriad of subtle and contradictory ways, besides the obvious and expected symptoms. They are a true scourge of humanity.

  This could well have been what was going on with your mom. Maybe it will help you and your sister feel better if you can find it your hearts to give her the benefit of the doubt, and choose to remember her as the mom she was before she was attacked by this horrible disease.

  I am so sorry for what happened to you and your family, and wish you only the best. Hang in there. You are not alone.
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  Medal of Valor given by Obama to JW Grandmother - Check her Lapel Pin

  by Da.Furious in

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  this grandmother found the best way to advertise jw.org by wearing a huge lapel pin.. .

  some of the comments are really interesting.. link to article:.

  http://www.phillyvoice.com/obama-award-medal-valor-family-slain-philadelphia-police-officer-robert-wilson-iii-monday/.

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  I think her wearing that pin was hypocritical and self-serving. I have no doubt that the elders in her congregation urged her to wear it as a "witness."

  It's hypocritical because no JW in good standing can serve as an armed policeman. Accepting an honor for what her grandson did while at the same advertising her religion which disapproves of his doing so is two-faced at the very least.

  I am very sorry the young man was killed, especially in the line of duty. But I have no respect for someone who would use the occasion of the President honoring his sacrifice to promote her own contrary beliefs and serve her New York GOD's (Guardians of Doctrine).

  Have they no shame? No. They must promote the organization at all costs.

  Something, something, something... and the horse they rode in on.
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  My brother died last night

  by LisaRose in

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  i found out this morning that my brother died last night, he was also an ex jw, 73 years old and died of heart disease and kidney failure.

  it was not totally unexpected, as he had been in poor health, but it's a blow, especially as i just lost another brother two years ago.

  there were six of us, now only four.

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  So sorry for your loss, Lisa. It's never easy to lose a sibling.

  I lost my own brother just over a year ago in a freak accident at home. He was 15 months younger than I and left a wife he loved dearly, several children, and many grandchildren. We had been on better terms for the last couple of years than for several years before. I am so glad about that. Life turns on a dime, and you never know when it will be too late to make that phone call...
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  Interesting Wallpaper

  by NeonMadman in

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  my wife and i live in a small town in northern new jersey.

  there is a building near our house that, many decades ago, used to be the local post office.

  it sat idle for many years, but a couple of years ago, some folks bought it and renovated it into a nice little cafe.

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  Hi, NeonMadman. It was so nice of you to treat your wife to a birthday meal at the cafe of her choice. You, sir, are a wise man. I hope you both enjoyed the evening and made some memories.

  If you happen to return to that cafe, would you take another look at that "interesting wallpaper" and note the exact date of that issue? I'd like to try to locate a copy of that entire issue and read the article for myself. Thanks!
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  Don't Want To Be At The RC This Year...

  by JW_Rogue in

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  the whole time i'll just be thinking about what effect all those crazy loyalty videos will have on my family.

  i can venture to guess that they'll be wound up and determined to "stay loyal" because this "is the truth" and "this system can't last much longer".

  i have to go because not doing so would raise too much suspicion but i'm really dreading it.

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  I've heard that just about any lively conversation that goes on long enough will wind up having some sort of Nazi analogy. But does anyone else see the similarities between the Watchtower's increased emphasis on absolute loyalty and unquestioning obedience and the way the Nazis rose to power?

  It seems like some already think the baptismal questions are some sort of loyalty oath. The Society constantly promotes an "us versus them" attitude and looks forward to the death of everyone who isn't "us" as a good thing. I have no doubt that if they could get away with it, they would happily kill all "apostates" and anyone else who stood in their way or refused to join in. Think about it: JW's eagerly anticipate the death of 99.9% of the entire population of the earth.

  A world governed by the JW system and controlled by its endless and arbitrary rules and draconian punishments is no "Paradise." Daesh (ISIS) is a very good example of what life under the thumb of the Watchtower would be like. No thanks!
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  Special Day for our family today!

  by Captain Schmideo2 in

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  my son graduates with his bachelors degree, cum laude!.

  he is the first in my family to graduate with a four year degree.

  and he is already in talks for a teaching job.. so, gerrit lush....up your nose with a rubber hose!

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  Congratulations to you and your son and your whole family, Captain! You must be so proud! I know the feeling... and I'm so happy when people multiply their fatherly or motherly love and pride by sharing it with us.
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  Gorby says goodbye

  by Gorbatchov in

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  my eyes for ttatt opened in 1995 with the generation change and the wt magazine stated "some witness thought that the generation started in 1914".

  since 1997, with internet at low speed, i followed h2o hourglass, www.xjw.com and later on www.jehovahs-witness.net.. did a bachelor and post bachelor since then.. now, nearly completed with fading, i feel it's time to go on with my life and do some other things, spending more time with my wife abd children instead of thinking about jw topics in my head.

  goal is being a better person and less grumpy at 45.... everything what could be said is already said.

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  Well done on your education, Gorby! Have a safe trip, and do drop in again from time to time.

  So long, my friend.
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  Hard to Remember but Back in the Ninteen Fifies...

  by new boy in

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  my writing a book about my strange life as a jw.

  i need some help.. does anyone remember when they used to get these charts out at the service meetings which had all the hours, "back calls" and bible studies on it?

  what did they call that?.

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  I clearly remember the congregation activity chart you're speaking about. And yes, it listed quotas (not goals) for each item and then that congregation's actual numbers. I believe it gave the numbers for about a year, but I don't remember whether it was a calendar year or a "service" year (September through August).

  I have some old 8 mm film of my sister's 1961 Kingdom Hall wedding. Sure enough, in several of the shots is that congregation chart, mounted in some sort of frame (but not behind glass) just to the left of the stage. It's not clear enough to read, but you can easily see that it's the chart we're talking about. I was very young at the time, but I remember seeing rolls of paper about the size and shape of a typical fluorescent light bulb. The paper had numbers printed on it and whoever kept the chart up to date had to cut out the desired numbers and paste them onto the chart. If I remember correctly, they used some kind of rubber cement. It came in a glass jars and was applied with the brush built into the cap. Similar to a bottle of fingernail polish, but larger.